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Author: gancity       Show all posts   Read mode

Post time 23-11-2006 12:19 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by alphawolf at 22-11-2006 12:41 PM
Kasi settle MRAD dulu,baru cerita LRAD...heheh


:setuju: Kena selalu ingat, nak beli senjata modern mudah, nak maintain dan cari personnel yang cekap dan handal untuk operasi benda ini yang susah.
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Post time 23-11-2006 06:08 AM | Show all posts
I believe the S300 can indeed be countered by IDF since they already have those missiles.
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Post time 23-11-2006 12:23 PM | Show all posts

Reply #17 Debmey's post

perhaps... but most AD nowadays have triple or more counter-measures... if they can avoid the S300 they had to time it well and very precise...
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Post time 23-11-2006 02:04 PM | Show all posts
yap, you are correct, the counter systems are progarmmed for such things to maximise its effectiveness. I think these systems are automatic. A pilot just don't have much time to think and coordinate especially when a missile is coming directly at him.
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Post time 23-11-2006 02:16 PM | Show all posts

Reply #19 Debmey's post

And knowing Soviet doctrine they ain't gonna let loose just one missile for one target... they tend to let loose several missiles for each threat... which surely makes it a very bad day at the office for any pilot....
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Post time 23-11-2006 02:25 PM | Show all posts

Reply #19 Debmey's post

dia setuju dengan ko mat ni dia nak tekel ko ke :lol
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Post time 23-11-2006 03:09 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mat_toro at 23-11-2006 02:16 PM
And knowing Soviet doctrine they ain't gonna let loose just one missile for one target... they tend to let loose several missiles for each threat... which surely makes it a very bad day at the offi ...


I read sometime ago that the counter is actually a small drone that emits signals similar to the aircraft to confuse the missile.
if that is the case, then the pilot might have to release more than one drone fopr more than one missile. That will surely affect the payload.
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Post time 23-11-2006 04:36 PM | Show all posts

Reply #22 Debmey's post

Actually what they use is multiple tracking systems... it could be a combo of optical, radio & IR etc etc... plus other redundant systems for double insurance I guess... so the drone had better be of multiple deception too if they wanna fool the missile...
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Post time 30-11-2006 11:29 PM | Show all posts

Ekranoplan: Caspian Sea Monster

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Post time 30-11-2006 11:40 PM | Show all posts
Ekranoplan-the Caspian Sea Monster

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An ekranoplan (Russian: ?????????́?, literally "screen plane") is a vehicle resembling an aircraft, but operating solely on the principle of ground effect. Ground effect vehicles (GEV) fly above any flat surface, with the height above ground dependent upon the size of the vehicle.

During the Cold War, ekranoplans were sighted for years on the Caspian Sea as huge, fast-moving objects. The name Caspian Sea Monster was given by U.S. intelligence operatives who had discovered the huge vehicle, which looked like an airplane with the outer halves of the wings removed. After the end of the Cold War, the "monster" was revealed to be one of several Russian military designs meant to fly only a few meters above water, saving energy and staying below enemy radar.

The KM, as the Caspian Sea Monster was known in the top secret Soviet military development program, was over 100 m long (330 ft), weighed 540 tonnes fully loaded, and could travel over 400 km/h (250 mi/h), mere meters above the surface of the water. Another model was the Lun-class. The ekranoplan has a lifting power of 1,000 tonnes[citation needed], among the largest ever achieved.[citation needed]

The important design principle is that wing lift is reduced as operating altitude of the ekranoplan is increased (see ground effect). Thus it is dynamically stable in the vertical dimension. Once moving at speed, the ekranoplan was no longer in contact with the water, and could move over ice, snow, or level land with equal ease.

These craft were originally developed by the Soviet Union as very high-speed (several hundred km/hour) military transports, and were mostly based on the shores of the Caspian Sea and Black Sea. The largest could transport over 100 tonnes of cargo. The development of ekranoplans was supported by Dmitri Ustinov, Minister of Defence of USSR. About 120 ekranoplans (A-90 Orlyonok class) were initially planned to enter military service in the Soviet Navy. The figure was later reduced to less than thirty vehicles, planned to be deployed mainly for the Black and the Baltic Soviet navies. Marshal Ustinov died in 1985, and the new Minister of Defence Marshal Sokolov effectively ceased the funding for the program. The only three operational A-90 Orlyonok ekranoplans built (with renewed hull design) and one Lun-class ekranoplan remained at a naval base near Kaspiysk.

Since the fall of the Soviet Union, ekranoplans have been produced by the Volga Shipyard[1] in Nizhni Novgorod located at 56
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Post time 1-12-2006 09:57 AM | Show all posts
The ekranoplan operates on a phenomenon very little people pay attention to which is called "ground effect" or the more correct term is "Wing In Ground" (WIG) effect... some pilots may confuse this with flaring though... wing effect happens when the a/c descends to a height of about 1/2 the wingspan (hence the term wing in ground) of an a/c which creates a cushion of air that makes descending require a bit more effort on the control stick... as if the a/c refuses to descend any lower...

The ekranoplan has a very large potential as a troop carrier as it can move very fast, carry heavy loads (more than an aircraft can), flies way below radar & creates very little water turbulence to bepicked up by sonar at long range (since it doesn't actually hit the water)... The soviets also used smaller ekranoplans as a high speed SSM/torpedo crafts to attack large warships... the true potential has never been exploited yet... the US military has already started a programme on the ekranoplan by developing their own ekranoplan called the pelican... dunno if operational or not lah...
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Post time 1-12-2006 02:23 PM | Show all posts
For a more advanced explanation on how WIG works you f*ckers need to know some basic aerodynamics... firstly my description above of "creates a cushion of air" is just a description to make it easier to understand... In actual fact there is no "cushion of air"... what actually happens is that as the a/c gets closer to the ground, the ground acts as a barrier to the trailing vortices from each wing tip which reduces the amount of down wash generated by the wing... this in turn increases the effective angle of attack of the wing so that it creates more lift and less drag than it normally would... I dunno how to draw on my pc the picture diagram... I'll search for it and I'll post it later...

the "air cushion" part becomes more apparent in the form of ram pressure as speed increases ... ram pressure is the incoming air that is being compressed or rammed in between the wing and the ground ... this increases the pressure on the lower surface of the wing to create additional lift...

I'llk search for pics because I dunno how to draw pretty on my pc... if I find I'll post... if not you bitches search yourselves laa.... keyword "Wing In Ground Effect"..

[ Last edited by  mat_toro at 1-12-2006 02:33 PM ]
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Post time 1-12-2006 02:29 PM | Show all posts
picture for first paragraph above... malas nak edit... I also greedy for credits...

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Post time 1-12-2006 02:31 PM | Show all posts
for second paragraph...
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Post time 1-12-2006 02:49 PM | Show all posts
Thanks Mat for the lecture....:nerd:
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Post time 1-12-2006 03:04 PM | Show all posts
Iran sedar & 'nampak' potensi ekranoplan nie sesuai di gunakan di Teluk Parsi, untuk mengetahui keberkesanannya tunggu ler konflik Iran - US di teluk Parsi nanti



Iran's  'stealth' aircraft


[ Last edited by  ef/x at 1-12-2006 03:54 PM ]
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Post time 1-12-2006 03:44 PM | Show all posts
nak nyampuk skit le ye..

dalam gambar bawah ni, cuma bleh nampak 2 kapalterbang je.. mane pegi yg ke3.. ke aku yg tak nampak



1st plane



2nd plane

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Post time 1-12-2006 03:53 PM | Show all posts


Lun Ekranoplan

Primary Function: AShM Launcher / later Search & Rescue
Contractor: Central Design Bureau
Crew: Nine; +19 rescue (S&R version)
Unit Cost: N/A

Powerplant
Eight NK-87 turbofan engines rated at 28,660 lb trust each

Dimensions
Length: 240 ft
Wingspan: 144 ft
Height: 65 ft

Weights
Empty: N/A
Max. Takeoff: 882,000 lb

Performance
Speed: 341 mph (cruise)
Ceiling: 24,600 ft
Range: 1,864 miles

Armament
Six 3M80 anti-shipping cruise missiles; none on S&R







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Post time 10-1-2007 10:49 AM | Show all posts

Soviet/Russian Weaponry And Systems

Kat sini aku mergekan threads berkaitan persenjataan dari Rusia/Soviet Union...post pasal persenjataan mereka kat sini, OK?

Black Eagle Project Tank Masa Depan yang sedang dikembangkan oleh Rusia

KONFIGURASI AWAK TANK (HANYA 3 AWAK)
Terlihat awak Tank terlindung dibawah turret atau kubah. Sehingga bilamana turret terkena tembakan dan meledak atau canister peluru meledak, maka awak masih akan selamat. Awaknya hanya ada 3 orang, yaitu Driver, Gunner, dan Commander.



KONFIGURASI KETEBALAN SERTA JENIS SERTA SISTIM PELINDUNGNYA




1 Bagian belakang turret merupakan tempat penyimpanan canister peluru meriam 152 mm. Dirancang untuk meledak kearah luar bilamana terjadi peledakan.

2 RHA 60mm, STB 100mm, RHA 40mm, tebal total 200 mm. Ditunjang dengan Arena-E APS. Kekuatannya sekitar 2 x dari hantaman proyektil KE, EFP atau HEAT

3 RHA 100mm, STB 170mm, RHA 60mm, tebal total 330 mm. Ditunjang dengan Arena-E APS. Kekuatannya sekitar 1,6 x dari hantaman proyektil APFDS

4 RHA 100mm, STB 100mm, RHA 60mm, tebal total 260 mm. Ditambah Arena-E APS

5 RHA 210mm, ditambah Arena-E APS

6 RHA 80mm + Reinforced rubber 25mm

RHA=Rolled homogenized Armour. Baja yang diproses secara khusus (bersifat rahasia)
STB=Lapisan tertentu untuk menyerap energi kinetic (keramik, serat gelas, atau kevlar/karbon)
APS=Active Protection System. Alat pelindung yang akan meledakkan rudal/proyektil anti tank

BAGIAN-BAGIAN UTAMA



- NSVT-12,7 Remotely-Controlled AA (anti aircraft) Machine Gun Mount
- Gunners hatch
- AINET Automatic Fuse Setting System. Untuk mengatur waktu dan jarak peledakan proyektil
- Gunners Thermal Imaging Sight of Russian/Foreign Origin
- Kaktus Eexplosive Reactive Armour (sekarang diganti menjadi Arena-E APS)
- 2A46M-4 Main gun (sekarang diganti menjadi 152 mm Smoothbore Cannon)
- Digger/Screen/Sweep
- RPZ-86M Anti Radar Coating
- Kaktus-Type ERA Side Panels (sudah diganti menjadi Arena-E APS/Active Protection System)
- Anti-Fragmentation Screens. Made of Kevlar-Type Tissue
- TUMAN Rapid-Action Fire-Fighting System
- Turret Roof Explosive Reactive Armour
- Commanders Thermal Imaging Sight
- Welded Turret (Teknik baru dalam pembuatan kubah, sebelumnya pembuatan turret selalu dicor)
- Commanders Hatch
- Advanced Electro Optical Countermeasures System
- Air Conditioner
- Blow-off Panels Over Loading Mechanism
- GTD-1250G Engine with Hydraulic Volume Gear of Turn Mechanism (mesin diesel super charged)
- Digital Data Secure Transmission Equipment
- Satellite Navigation System (for Glonass, Galileo and GPS as well)
- DV-ERS Wind Sensor
- Loading Mechanism Module


FIRE CONTROL COMMAND SYSTEM



Nampak Fire Control Command System yang digunakan sudah menggunakan sistim digital terpadu.



Senapan mesin berat NSVT, kaliber 12,7 x 108 mm (Remote controlled heavy machine AA gun)
Kaliber 12,7x108 mm
Kecepatan tembakan 700-800 rounds/min
Kecepatan peluru 800
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Post time 10-1-2007 11:24 AM | Show all posts
Bagus tul tank ni..jom pakat beli!!!
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