Lagi soalan tentang "Korban"...

sLapshock

Kalau Yahudi perform "Korbanot" to comemmorate Abraham willingness to sacrifice Isaac (Judeo-christianity beliefs) since Day 1, so when does the Muslim start doing it? When exactly the Muslim doing "Korban", if it was instructed by Allah in the form of Koran, then before that, the Muslim didnt know?

Can explain to me in english? Good if there's verse to subtantiate claims..

sLapshock

Takda orang nak jawab ke? Alamak. Aku nak translation surah yang menyuruh umat islam buat ibadah korban, dan sejak bila, dan kenapa yahudi buat lebih awal..

mnm77

Originally posted by sLapshock at 29-10-2007 04:07 AM
Kalau Yahudi perform "Korbanot" to comemmorate Abraham willingness tosacrifice Isaac (Judeo-christianity beliefs) since Day 1, so when doesthe Muslim start doing it? When exactly the Muslim doing "Korban", ifit was instructed by Allah in the form of Koran, then before that, theMuslim didnt know?

Can explain to me in english? Good if there's verse to subtantiate claims..

Please elaborate when do you mean 'Day 1' started?

The act of Hajj or Pilgrim haave been established even before the Prophethood of Muhammad SAW. Many people confused that Islam only started after the Prophethood of Muhammad SAW. Usually, the Islamic era refers to the time of Prophethood of Muhammad SAW.

Muslims must believe in all the Prophets sent by Allah and all the Heavenly Books revealed to the selected Prophets.

According to hadith, all the prophets are given example as 'half brothers' and they only have 1 religion, and Muhammad SAW is the final Mesengger.

The religion of Abraham (AS) is Haniff (Islam:belief in the oneness of Allah). All the prophets called people towards the oneness of Allah  (read: Muslim). Hajj is the religious ritual ordained  by Allah to prophet Abraham AS and it is Allah's decision to preserve this ritual and to be continued by Muslim through the teaching of Final Prophet.

Those who were Jews and Christians (people of the Book) before Islamic era are all considered as Muslims if they follow the true teachings of their prophets. Hence, the belief regarding the Oneness of Allah is vital to be considered as Muslim.

and Allah Knows best

mnm77

Verily my worship and my sacrifice, my living and my dying are for Allaah, Sustainer of the worlds. (Al An'aam - 162)

And for every nation we appoint rites (of sacrifice) that they mention the name of Allaah over that beast from quadruped cattle that He has given them for sustenance and food; and your Allaah is the one and only Allaah, so unto Him submit. And give good tidings (O Muhammad) to the humble. (Al-Haj - 34)

It is not their meat, nor their blood that reaches Allaah; it is your piety that reaches Him. (Al-Haj - 37)

Surely we have given you Kautharr (abundance of good), so pray unto your Sustainer and sacrifice. Surely it is your enemy who will be cut off (from good). (Al-Kautharr - 1, 2 & 3)

mnm77

When Ibrahim (Alaihis salaam) completed the structure of the Kabah, Allah (Subhanahu wa ta抋la) commanded him to call the people to Hajj. Ibrahim (Alaihis salaam) pleaded, 揙 Allah! How shall my voice reach all of those people?

zerozone

The prophet Muhammad PBUH  was asked "What is Qurban?", He answered, "It is the sunnah of your father Ibrahim (AS), for every hair of the Qurban you will receive a reward from Allah and for every hair in the wool you will receive a reward". (Hadith - Ibn Maja and Tirmidhi).

sLapshock

Anymore? Thanks!

tobby

Originally posted by back_hand at 28-11-2007 01:30 PM


Sebenarnya yahudi tak buat awal korban-korban ni. Mengikut paderi yang bertugas di kuil gereja melaka, korban yang paling suci dan murni adalah korban yang dijalankan oleh para pengikut ajara ...

PADERI, St Xavier, Melaka tu member you ka?

shalom

Saya berdoa agar saudara dikurniakan kedamaian

Shalom !

back_hand

Originally posted by shalom at 28-11-2007 10:55 PM
Saya berdoa agar saudara dikurniakan kedamaian

Shalom !

yes.tima kasih. Doa anda akan saya laporkan kpd seorang paderi yg telah mencapai taraf-taraf tuhan jesus untuk dinilai kelak. Mungkin membolehkan anda mendapat kenikmatan syurga.Saya berbangga agar anda serta juga slapshock agar mempertingkatkan keimanan disamping dapat mempelajari rahsia-rahsia ajaran kristian yang jarang2 didedahkan kepada penganut2 biasa taraf rakyat bawahan yang masih belum mencapai keimanan sejati.Ingat!Belajarlah..dan belajarlah agama kristian sehingga mencapai taraf ketuhanan jesus. Ini seiring dengan kata-kata nasihat seorang paderi yang pernah saya dengar semasa beliau bersembang dgn kami minggu lepas disebuah restoran. Dia menyatakan kepada sesiapa penganut kristian yang belajar..belajar dan terus belajar mengenai kristian, maka suatu masa ia akan menjadikan tubuh berkenaan akan lebih ringan dan boleh menginjak ke udara.Selayaknya berterbangan kesana kemari.Ini rahsia ketuhanan katanya.Dan apabila taraf ini dicapai terdapat beberapa perubahan dalam diri manusia itu yg berbeza dgn penganut2 biasa, katanya lagi.Salah satu rahsia yg didedahkan oleh paderi berkenaan kpd sesiapa yg mencapai tahap demikian antaranya ialah sisa pembuangan najis nya agak berwarna putih dan bercahaya sedikit. Cukuplah setakat ini rahsia sy berikan.Jika berminat anda semua boleh bertanya paderi berkenaan.

Amen.

sLapshock

saya berminat...
































saya berminat untuk mengetahui bagaimana seorang manusia boleh melahirkan tuhan. isnt that bull#?

back_hand

berminat? sila belajar dari bawah dgn shalom dulu.orait.

zerozone

"sisa pembuangan najis nya agak berwarna putih dan bercahaya sedikit".

Dari segi perubatan bila najis kita warna putih makna nya liver tak berfungsi dengan betul. Orang banyak minum arak selalu dapat penyakit macam ni.

migdal_bavel

shalom, ata medaber ivrit?

i've many xtian buddies who learn n noe how to speak hebrew...

mnm77

Originally posted by zerozone at 29-11-2007 05:08 PM
"sisa pembuangan najis nya agak berwarna putih dan bercahaya sedikit".

Dari segi perubatan bila najis kita warna putih makna nya liver tak berfungsi dengan betul. Orang banyak minum arak selal ...

Betul tu doktor zero,

Orang yang kena penyakit Kuning/Jaundice najisnya jadi warna kelabu/putih...  sebab liver dia tak berfungsi dengan betul, kan?

nangada

Originally posted by sLapshock at 29-10-2007 04:07 AM
Kalau Yahudi perform "Korbanot" to comemmorate Abraham willingness to sacrifice Isaac (Judeo-christianity beliefs) since Day 1, so when does the Muslim start doing it? When exactly the Muslim doi ...

Dalam bible Abraham sacrifice Isaac ...Nabi Ibrahim menyembelih Nabi Ishak (Isaac) Nampak sangat nama anak nabi Ibrahim itu di ubah,
Dalam Al Quran Nabi Ibrahim menyembelih (Korban) nabi Ismail (anak nabi ibrahim dgn isterinya hajar)
Dapat di perhatikan kisah Nabi ibrahim bahawa isterinya sara (ibu kpd nabi ishak sudah tua baru melahirkan anak (nabi ishak)
Nabi ismail anak nabi ibrahim dgn hajar lebih tua daripada nabi ishak..Al quran membetulkan segala nya........nabi ismail yg di korban oleh nabi ibrahim bukan nya nabi ishak spt yg terdpt dlm bible (peristwa ini digantikan dgn se ekor kibas oleh Allah.

ibnur

Originally posted by nangada at 30-11-2007 11:05 AM


Dalam bible Abraham sacrifice Isaac ...Nabi Ibrahim menyembelih Nabi Ishak (Isaac) Nampak sangat nama anak nabi Ibrahim itu di ubah,
Dalam Al Quran Nabi Ibrahim menyembelih (Korban) nabi Ism ...

sebenarnya dalam Al-Quran tak disebut Nabi Ibrahim hendak mengorbankan Nabi Ismail.

sLapshock

sebarang jer..dalam quran tak tulis anak siapa...
kenapa al quran tak tulis???

St.Yeepi

Kalau melihat dari soalan yang dibawa oleh anda, sebenarnya taraf awak bukan untuk bertanya disini, tapi dah boleh mengkaji sendiri. Mungkin awak boleh mulakan dengan membaca buku buku tafsir Quran oleh ulama ulama terdahulu

ibnur

Originally posted by sLapshock at 3-12-2007 10:47 AM
sebarang jer..dalam quran tak tulis anak siapa...
kenapa al quran tak tulis???

kepada siapa awak bertanya?

saya tak layak nak jawab soalan tersebut, sebab itu Al-Quran adalah Allah punya kata-kata.  Dan Dia beri apa yang Dia nak beri.