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 Author| Post time 11-11-2009 01:53 PM | Show all posts
Pakistan in Chinese fighter jet deal

By Farhan Bokhari in Islamabad

Published: November 10 2009 08:16 | Last updated: November 10 2009 09:57

China has agreed to sell Pakistan at least 36 advanced fighter jets in a landmark deal worth as much as $1.4bn, according to Pakistani and western officials.

Beijing will supply two squadrons of the J-10 fighter jet in a preliminary agreement that could lead to more sales to Pakistan in the future, said a Pakistani official.

Analysis: Pakistan needs a new world view - Nov-02

The official said Pakistan might buy larger numbers of the multi-role aircraft in the future, but dismissed reports that Pakistan had inked a deal to buy as many as 150 of the fighter jets.

Defence experts described the agreement with China as a landmark event in Pakistans defence relationship with the growing military power. Chinas transition from a manufacturer of low-fighters to more advanced jets comparable to some western models is seen as evidence of Beijings growing strategic clout in Asia.

This agreement should not simply be seen in the narrow context of Pakistans relations with China, said Abdul Qayyum, a retired Pakistani general.

There is a wider dimension. By sharing its advanced technology with Pakistan, China is ... also saying to the world that its defence capability is growing rapidly.

China has supplied Pakistan with fighter jets for more than three decades. But Beijing has seldom supplied Pakistans air force with advanced fighter aircraft. Islamabad turned to France for Mirage fighter jets in the 1970s and to the US for F-16s in the 1980s.

Pakistan has a fleet of 45 F-16s, which are built by Lockheed Martin. The Pakistani air force is using the fighter jet in its campaign against militants in South Waziristan. The US has agreed to sell Islamabad another 18 new F-16s and about a dozen older versions of the aircraft.

Over the past decade, China and Pakistan have collaborated on building their first jointly produced advanced fighter jet, known as the JF-17, or Thunder. Pakistan is expected to roll out the first domestically built version of the Thunder within weeks.

Pakistans air force plans to purchase at least 250 of the Thunder fighters over the next four to five years. Experts see the new Pakistani focus on China as a supplier of advanced fighters as evidence that Beijing is trying to expand its military power.

Countries like Iran and possibly some of the Middle Eastern countries would be keen to deal with China if they can find technology which is comparable to the west, said one western official in Islamabad.

Pakistan will work as the laboratory to try out Chinese aircraft. If they work well with the Pakistani air force, others will follow.

- Financial Times -


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Post time 11-11-2009 08:50 PM | Show all posts
Operation Rah-e-Nijat: 9 more extremists killed in SWA: ISPR
Pakistan Times Federal Bureau

RAWALPINDI: At least nine terrorists have been killed and a terrorist was apprehended during the last 24 hours in Operation Rah-e-Nijat.

According to a press release issued from Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) on Tuesday, the security forces secured Tsappara and adjoining ridges. Search and clearance operations in Sarai Ghundaka, Kandao, Spinkai and Zariwam are under progress.

Security forces cleared area north of Ladha and found a private jail near Bangel Khel and destroyed number of caves, bunkers, towers and observation posts of the terrorists in the area.

During search operation in area north of Ladha, a group of terrorists was engaged, as a result 5 terrorists were killed.

Area domination, clearance and consolidation of positions is under way on Razmak-Makeen axis.

Security forces carried out house to house search in Tauda China Khula and Fort Knoll and recovered huge cache of arms and ammunition. a terrorist has been apprehended while 4 terrorists were killed.

At least nine terrorists voluntarily surrendered to security forces in Maindam, Lakhar and Kabbal during Operation Rah-e-Rast in Malakand and Swat.

Security forces conducted search operation in Roria, Shalpin and apprehended 4 terrorists.

At the same time, the security forces continued the relief activities, as 9,924 Cash Cards have been issued to displaced families of Waziristan.

Army Field Hospital has treated over 6,020 patients in Dera Ismail Khan, Wanna and Shakai.

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Post time 12-11-2009 01:43 PM | Show all posts
yo deb....why u so interesting bout taliban????

juz wanna know.........

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Post time 12-11-2009 03:50 PM | Show all posts
Pakistan is fighting for its survival, if they lose, it will turn into a rogue extremist state with nukes. Thats why this conflict is critical.
There are also many lessons to be learnt from this Pakis civil war.

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Post time 12-11-2009 04:00 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by lkick2113 at 12-11-2009 17:04
Pakistan is fighting for its survival, if they lose, it will turn into a rogue extremist state with nukes. Thats why this conflict is critical.
There are also many lessons to be learnt from this Pak ...
Debmey Post at 12-11-2009 15:50

could u elaborate what are the lessons????

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Post time 12-11-2009 04:54 PM | Show all posts
never support extremists thinking you can control them for your own agenda, too dangerous and unpredictable.

zero tolerance for state within a state. The pakis have allowed taliban too much autonomy in NW frontier for far too long.

Its interesting now to see how the pakis can take NWF back thru both military actions and handling the civilians.

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Post time 13-11-2009 08:23 AM | Show all posts
Bila dubuk meraung !!!

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Post time 13-11-2009 11:39 AM | Show all posts
thats why its stupid of malaysia to support hezbollah. These shias will bury the sunnis in lebanon one day.

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Post time 13-11-2009 01:04 PM | Show all posts
Bombings at security offices kill at least 10 in Pakistan
Posted: 13 November 2009 1113 hrs
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Pakistani soldiers at the destroyed Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) building after a bomb blast in Peshawar.

PESHAWAR, Pakistan: Bombs tore through security offices in northwest Pakistan on Friday, killing at least 10 people and heavily damaging the Peshawar headquarters of the country's top intelligence agency.

The latest assaults on Pakistan's police and intelligence agents come with the military pressing its most ambitious offensive to date against homegrown Taliban networks in the lawless tribal belt on the Afghan border.

The Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) building in the northwestern city was heavily damaged in the blast, with huge clouds of smoke spewing into the sky and debris littering the ground, witnesses said.

The building was almost destroyed and the road littered with debris and tree trunks ripped off by the force of the explosion in Peshawar, which lies on the edge of Pakistan's lawless tribal belt infested with Al-Qaeda and Taliban.

The United States has put Pakistan on the frontline of its war against Al-Qaeda and has been increasingly disturbed by deteriorating security in the country where attacks and bombings have killed about 2,500 people in 28 months.

"Seven people have died and 35 are wounded," Sahib Zada Anis, head of the northwestern city's administration, told reporters in Peshawar.

Most of them were civilians, he added. A doctor at the city's main Lady Reading Hospital confirmed the casualties.

A security official said it was a bomb blast, but it was not immediately clear whether the explosives were planted in a vehicle, elsewhere, or detonated by a suicide bomber.

An AFP reporter saw at three bodies lying on the ground, but soldiers opened fire into the air preventing other people from approaching until army vehicles arrived and cordoned off the area.

Television footage showed scenes of panic at one hospital, with blood-stained men being admitted and relatives starting to gather outside.

A second bomb ripped through a suburban police station in the garrison city of Bannu, southwest of Peshawar, killing three policemen and wounding five others, police said.

"It appears to be a suicide attack, Bakakhel police station building has been damaged very badly, three policemen are dead and five others are injured," local police official Hameed Khan told AFP.

Peshawar, which runs into Pakistan's lawless tribal belt where US officials say Al-Qaeda are plotting attacks on the West and where Pakistani troops are pressing a major anti-Taliban offensive, is frequently hit by attacks.

The most devastating bomb attack in Pakistan in two years killed at least 118 people in a crowded market of Peshawar on October 28 as militants put ordinary civilians firmly in the crosshairs of their bloody campaign.

Pakistan's powerful and shadowy intelligence agencies have a history of supporting Islamist groups in a bid to counter rival India, but militant attacks have increasingly focused on domestic targets in the last two years.

Friday's Peshawar bombing was the first major attack outside an ISI installation since May, when a suicide attack on a police building in the city of Lahore killed 24 people beside its Punjab provincial headquarters.

The government blames increasing attacks on Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), which is the target of the ongoing offensive and which wants to avenge the killing of their leader Baitullah Mehsud by a US missile in August.

Friday's bombing comes after stiff Taliban resistance killed at least 17 Pakistani soldiers Thursday in the military's deadliest day since launching a major offensive in South Waziristan, security officials said.

Pakistan has pressed around 30,000 forces, backed by war planes and attack helicopters, into battle in a US-endorsed mission to wipe out the chief strongholds of Tehreek-e-Taliban in the tribal district of South Waziristan.

On Tuesday, a Taliban spokesman told AFP by telephone from an undisclosed location that the militia had embarked on a guerrilla war from the mountains of South Waziristan and would attack cities as a matter of course.

"The attacks in cities are a part of our permanent strategy. These attacks will continue and we will attack everyone who wants to harm us," said the spokesman, Azam Tariq.

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 Author| Post time 13-11-2009 02:37 PM | Show all posts
si dubuk minat sangat kat taliban pakistan....

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Post time 13-11-2009 03:23 PM | Show all posts
Aku bukan nak kata apa .... Pakistan pun ngok ngek gak, sibuk sgt jd jagoan perang konvensional (ancaman drp India), homegrown threat pun dia takleh kontrol. Drp kes lama puak2 ekstremis Syiah & Sunnah yg asyik berbunuhan kat Karachi hinggalah ke pemberontak Baluchistan & pemberontak Waziristan hingga le ke Taliban.

Yg bangang tu, perisikan Pakistan (ISI) yg wujudkan Taliban, takkan le pegawai risik depa tak tau cara pemikiran / strategi / taktik Taliban nih.

Ini terpinga2 bila bom meletup sana sini. Pakistan Army mmg terlampau sgt ke arah conventional war ngan India, lupa strategi COIN terhadap Taliban & sewaktu dgnnya.

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Post time 13-11-2009 04:07 PM | Show all posts
wa rasa la agak2nya la kot ada officer2 pakistan armed force ni pon dlm diam2 sokong taliban kot..tu yg susah sgt nak benteras ini taliban..pendapat wa la..

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Post time 13-11-2009 04:14 PM | Show all posts
wa rasa la agak2nya la kot ada officer2 pakistan armed force ni pon dlm diam2 sokong taliban kot..tu yg susah sgt nak benteras ini taliban..pendapat wa la..

Itu aku susah nak percaya, melainkan ini melibatkan elemen2 subversif dlm ISI (badan perisikan Pakistan). Pasukan tentera Pakistan adalah profesional, diorg main direct assault je, intel tentera Pakistan lbh menjurus pd India-centric.

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Post time 15-11-2009 08:36 PM | Show all posts
Suicide Attack: Leaves 12 dead, 25 injured in Peshawar
Pakistan Times NWFP Bureau

PESHAWAR: A suicide car bomber detonated his explosive laden vehicle at Pishtakharra Police Check Post C while trying to enter Peshawar cantonment C putting to death at least 12 persons including a police constable and two children and injuring almost over 25 others.

Police chief Liaquat Ali Khan has confirmed the digit of the deaths in yet another tragedy which took place in the metropolis of the North West Frontier Province [NWFP] of Pakistan on Saturday.

The police officials showed bravery by stopping the car at the check post on suspicion for search, the City Police Chief said, adding, had the bomber entered the Peshawar he would have wrecked havoc in city.

The bomber exploded himself up while he was stopped by the Police personnel at the check post for search. Prior to detonating explosive laden vehicle, the bomber had a brief chat with the policeman at the check post, the CCPO said.

The official of the Bomb Disposal Squad maintained that 50 to 60 kilogram explosive was used in the explosion.

The NWFP Governor Owais Ahmed Ghani and Chief Minister Ameer Haider Khan Hoti have strongly condemned the suicide car bomb blast at Police Check Post Pishtakhara Saturday afternoon. They expressed their deep shock and sorrow over the loss of precious lives. They described the incident a highly cowardly act of terrorism.

In their separate condolence messages here Saturday, the Governor and Chief Minister said the incident itself speaks the barbaric and retrogressive mindset of the miscreants involved in such inhuman acts of extremism.

Targeting security forces and killing innocent citizens speaks the state of frustration, the elements are suffered with. Such elements, they added, are the enemies of the country and they would never succeed in their nefarious designs.

While expressing their heartfelt sympathies with members of the bereaved families, the Governor has assured that the elements involved in such heinous crimes would be brought to justice shortly. They also called upon the people to fully cooperate with the law enforcement agencies and ensure lasting peace in the area.

They also prayed for eternal peace of the departed souls, courage to the bereaved families to bear the irreparable loss with patience and early recovery of the injured.

Provincial Information Minister Mian Iftikhar Hussain in a statement also condemned the Pishtakharra blast in strong words and expressed the resolve that war against terror would continue till total elimination of the terrorists.

Terrorists are neither Muslim nor human beings, he said, adding, after such brutal activities by the terrorists, it has become now more necessary to crush them from their roots. No matter what price we pay for it but we will continue to hit them in their bases, he maintained.

God forbid, if we failed, these people (terrorists) would retrieve dead bodies from the graves, would lash the women and humiliate the females which would be more dangerous, Mian Iftikhar added. Defeat is no option with us we have to beat them at any cost, he remarked.

Provincial Information Minister said the example of Malakand was before us, we offered sacrifices and never succumbed to any pressure of the terrorists and with the blessing of Allah Almighty, today Malakand was safe and sound.

Mian Iftikhar who is vocal when asked by a reporter that how long the people would offer sacrifices in war on terror, replied that as long as they (terrorists) were not totally eliminated.They are targeting Peshawar because the government in the Province was fully supporting the military operation against them.

He said that Waziristan has become hub of the international terrorists who were here since long. To a question about presence of foreigners in the Tribal Belt, he asked why these elements do not Jihad in Iraq and Palestine why they have selected the land of Pukhtoons for their terrorist acts. The answer is very simple because Pukhtoons are simple, poor and religious minded nation, he added. That is why they were easily trapped in the hands of terrorists.

An earlier report had said that at least five persons were killed and fifteen others injured in a powerful bomb blast near Pishtakhara Police check-post near Ring Road on Saturday, police official confirmed.

District Coordination Officer (DCO) Peshawar had confirmed the death of five persons.Soon after the blast, the police and the security official cordoned off the area, while the injured were shifted to Lady Reading Hospital. Emergency has been declared in hospitals.

The Pishtakhara area situated in suburbs of Peshawar and a main entrance to the provincial capital from Bara, Khyber Agency. The police also confirmed that a car loaded with explosive hit the police check-post, killing five persons and injuring fifteen others, mostly deputed at the check-post.

The blast was so heavy which also injured the people roaming nearby the check-post besides, damaging vehicles on the main Ring Road.

President, PM condemn

President Asif Ali Zardari and Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani Saturday strongly condemned the terrorist attack at Pushtakhara, in the outskirts of Peshawar.

The two leaders expressed their deep sorrow and grief over the loss of lives and said the government will speed up efforts to wipe out extremists and terrorists from the country.

In separate messages the two leaders expressed their resolve not to be deterred by terrorist attacks.

The President and the Prime Minister expressed deep sorrow over the loss of lives and prayed to Allah Almighty to shower his blessings on the departed souls and grant courage to their families to bear this loss.

They also directed best possible medical treatment for the injured.

The Prime Minister in a separate message expressed his deep sorrow over the tragic death of son of former Inspector General of Punjab Police Shaukat Javed.

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Post time 15-11-2009 08:39 PM | Show all posts
So do you people these mujahideens are martyrs and freedom fighters?
How would yu deal with such terrorists? lets discuss.

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Post time 15-11-2009 10:04 PM | Show all posts
It's good that China's J-10 got its first export customer, might be the first among many later..3rd world countries with low budget would opt for the affordable Chinese JF17 and J10 combat aircraft.

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Post time 15-11-2009 11:56 PM | Show all posts
Malaysia sure can make do with some of these J10s and J17s.

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Post time 16-11-2009 08:23 AM | Show all posts
So do you people these mujahideens are martyrs and freedom fighters?
How would yu deal with such terrorists? lets discuss.
Debmey Post at 15-11-2009 20:39

enforce the subversive act......

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Post time 16-11-2009 08:53 AM | Show all posts
You didn't answer the question sir.

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Post time 16-11-2009 09:15 AM | Show all posts
patut malaysia invest JV plak ngn China untuk develop improvement J17 versi Malaysia, buat macam pakistan, 2 biji dev kat china selebihnya dev kat malaysia, tapi angkat byk laa satu kali, 80 bijik ke pasal rega murah jek USD 15-20 mil jek sebuah.

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Post time 16-11-2009 09:42 AM | Show all posts
You didn't answer the question sir.
Debmey Post at 16-11-2009 08:53

for HAMAS they r martyrs and freedom fighter....for taliban, i dont think so...they are extremist look alike...anyway it is very subjective to judge who they r...........lucky in malaysia, we have the ISA to control & monitor any subversive movements..........

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Post time 16-11-2009 12:13 PM | Show all posts
I also wonder why taliban bomb markets full of women and children. Won't that make the people hate them?
Maybe its part of the hearts and minds program by the govt who planted these bombs to discredit the taliban. This will be a very effective strategy.

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Post time 16-11-2009 12:20 PM | Show all posts
72# Debmey

r u moslem????

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Post time 17-11-2009 12:47 AM | Show all posts
LKick, jgn layan Dubuk. Dia bukan Muslim, slalu provokasi dlm bod ni & bod RSF (bod Agama Dll).

Dia ni angin lbh, suka provoke forummer Muslim kat situ. Tp geng2 forummer Muslim kita kbykannya slalu belasah dia, tp dubuk ni mana makan saman. Dia ni attention seeker, lg kau termakan umpan provokasi dia, lg dia suka. Lg kau layan, lg dia royan.

Sbb tak larat nk layan dubuk ni la aku lancarkan kempen anti dia. Since last year .... aman bod ni.

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Post time 17-11-2009 12:59 AM | Show all posts
LKick, jgn layan Dubuk. Dia bukan Muslim, slalu provokasi dlm bod ni & bod RSF (bod Agama Dll).

Dia ni angin lbh, suka provoke forummer Muslim kat situ. Tp geng2 forummer Muslim kita kbykannya slal ...
robotech Post at 17-11-2009 00:47

oooo...kapiaq la ek????  

sape bdk ni ha robo???? nak gak tau

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