Ha ah , you are panicky. I reproduce one of your reference about the so called 'muslim sex gangs'
If you want an insight into how cowardly public debate in Britain has become, look no further than the controversy over the Rochdale Asian sex gang. The discussion about the despicable crimes committed by these eight Pakistanis and one Afghani has revealed extraordinary levels of relativism and self-censorship in modern Britain
the Deputy Children’s Commissioner Sue Berelowitz rather madly told the Today programme this morning, these networks exist “across every single ethnic and religious group, so there are victims and perpetrators across all ethnic and religious groups”. In short, “rings” of perverts are everywhere.
Ha ha , your own reference has thoroughly refuted you. Its not the first time , yes?
Hmmm, you appeal to Pam Geller , the right wing ultra racist Jew? Even the Jews in the US are denouncing her.
Leftist Jewish groups are calling on a Long Island synagogue to cancel a speech by an outspoken Jewish blogger known for her anti-Muslim views — raising questions about a double standard on free expression.
New York activist groups Jewish Voice for Peace, Jews for Racial and Economic Justice, and Jews Say No! announced their opposition to a speech set for April 14th by Pamela Geller, an activist known for her extreme anti-Muslim rhetoric, at the Modern Orthodox Great Neck Synagogue.
Oops , are you a right wing racist person? Appears like it in your previous posts and now you have confirmed such. Ha ha , not only you are a christian bigot , you are also a racist. It must burn your insides to everyday face people of other races. Ha ha , right wing politics don't work in the long run. My sincere advice.
I dedicate this one for you , since you are a confirmed racist , you are in the same boat as the EDL (English Defense League)
Muslamic Ray Guns - original version :
Muslamic Ray Guns - remix version :
Enjoy .... pssst do you sound like the person interviewed? Ha ha .....
Kakaka.....truly entertaining, the imbecilic lecherous ustazy until now still has no idea what constituted a RAPE in the eyes of law as i explained in post #210. What can we do ?? We are dealing with the law illiterate(also science illiterate) madrasa trained lecherous ustazy.....this is getting more interesting.
Below is s sypnosis of an interesting article i just read, so enjoy.......
Muslim Sex Crimes, Sex Criminals and Islamic Sexual Deprivation and Depravity
Islam was founded by a child molester, and many of his followers regard him as a role model:
Islamic Gang Rape and Pedophilia as a 'Community Activity'
Of course every culture produces rapists and child molesters, but in non-Muslim societies these are usually isolated loners. In contrast, Muslim rapists and pedophiles are well-organised and these predators often hunt their prey in rape-gangs in a tradition of Muslim razzia going back to the 'prophet'.
Muslim Raped Christian Toddler for Refusal to Convert to Islam
Two and a half years old Neeha, raped and left to die by the roadside for the crime of being Christian in Pakistan. The Muslim rapist was never prosecuted as rape is a legitimate weapon of jihad.
Beslan - Child rape, torture, enforced urophagia and murder in the name of Islam
Young girls were gang raped. Young girls were raped with gun barrels and other objects. Many young girls did not survive these rapes. Children were forced to drink their own urine before being executed.
Charlene Downes
Child allegedly Pimped, Raped, Murdered by Islamic Pedophile Gang then minced into burgers and fed to kuffars.
What Wiki doesn't want you to know - Man boy sex (Pederasty) in Islam
This article has been saved from Wiki, prior to deletion for being politically incorrect.
In Muslim societies women are kept covered in burkhas, so the prettiest things that most unmarried Muslim men ever see are beardless pre-pubescent boys. Beardless boys are not regarded as male, so sex with them is not considered as homosexuality as it is between adult men.
Bacha bazi (man-boy sex) feminizes these boys in order to degrade them. By forcing them to perform in women's clothes and by raping them, this tradition not only seeks to humiliate these boys for the pleasure of wealthy men, but also to reinforce the idea that women are inferior and for a boy to have feminine affectations is degrading for him.
Muslim pedophile gangs prey on British Children
Pedophilia is socially acceptable in Islam because 'the perfect man' Mohammed was a pedophile. In addition, pedophile attacks on 'kuffar' (non-Muslim) children are seen as a legitimate form of jihad, inflicting humiliation and demoralisation on the children and their parents.
Mufa' Khathat - cleaning up the mess after thighing Ayesha
Mohammed married Ayesha when she was six but could not 'consummate' until she was nine. In the meantime he 'thighed' her then made her wash his semen off his clothes - a fact that is well documented in Islamic scriptures.
Inbreeding, Incest and Cousin Marriage in Islam
Young girls are sold as sex-slaves to older cousins and uncles to ensure that the bride purchse transaction money remains within the family.
Islamic Child Sexual Abuse: Muslim Pedophilia
Women are kept in purdah, and must be accompanied by a male relative whenever they leave the house. Wealthy older men acquire the youngest brides (often young cousins), with polygamy ensuring that young women are always in short supply for impoverished young men.
Islam is powered by Muslim sexual repression
Proponents of wars and terrorism in the name of Islam often exploited the frustration of sexually deprived young males and tantalised them with the prospect of captured women as ‘war booty’ if they succeeded. If they died, 72 lovely virgins in paradise as ‘houris’ would be provided to them which makes these boys ready to die for it, as suicide bombers.
95% of Pakistani Truckers have sex with Boys
Young boys are prostituted and abused in The Land of The Pure
Muslim sex criminals are above the law
Muslim pedophile gangs are immune from prosecution as police do not want to risk damaging 'community cohesion'.
Hypermasculine Muslims - Islam and hypermasculinity
Predatory and domineering, Islam is a brutal, hypermasculine, barbarian, tribal warrior cult that glories in murder, mutilation, rape, genocide, terrorism, destruction and anarchy. Women, girls and all the feminine aspects human nature are chattelised and subjugated. Weakness is despised and seen as ripe for predation. A woman or girl is to be owned, not treated as an equal. If she punctures the fragile inflated ego of her owner, then she must be killed to restore the man's 'honour' among his peers. Kuffar women and children are war booty.
Islam is bullying, swaggering, predatory, wife-beating thuggery, which is the destroyer of all that is beautiful, spiritual, gentle, innocent and vulnerable.
wkk5159 posted on 8-4-2013 03:15 PM
Kakaka.....truly entertaining, the imbecilic lecherous ustazy until now still has no idea what constituted a RAPE in the eyes of law as i explained in post #210. What can we do ?? We are dealing with the law illiterate(also science illiterate) madrasa trained lecherous ustazy.....this is getting more interesting.
Below is s sypnosis of an interesting article i just read, so enjoy.......
Muslim Sex Crimes, Sex Criminals and Islamic Sexual Deprivation and Depravity
Islam was founded by a child molester, and many of his followers regard him as a role model:
Islamic Gang Rape and Pedophilia as a 'Community Activity'
Of course every culture produces rapists and child molesters, but in non-Muslim societies these are usually isolated loners. In contrast, Muslim rapists and pedophiles are well-organised and these predators often hunt their prey in rape-gangs in a tradition of Muslim razzia going back to the 'prophet'.
Muslim Raped Christian Toddler for Refusal to Convert to Islam
Two and a half years old Neeha, raped and left to die by the roadside for the crime of being Christian in Pakistan. The Muslim rapist was never prosecuted as rape is a legitimate weapon of jihad.
Beslan - Child rape, torture, enforced urophagia and murder in the name of Islam
Young girls were gang raped. Young girls were raped with gun barrels and other objects. Many young girls did not survive these rapes. Children were forced to drink their own urine before being executed.
Charlene Downes
Child allegedly Pimped, Raped, Murdered by Islamic Pedophile Gang then minced into burgers and fed to kuffars.
What Wiki doesn't want you to know - Man boy sex (Pederasty) in Islam
This article has been saved from Wiki, prior to deletion for being politically incorrect.
In Muslim societies women are kept covered in burkhas, so the prettiest things that most unmarried Muslim men ever see are beardless pre-pubescent boys. Beardless boys are not regarded as male, so sex with them is not considered as homosexuality as it is between adult men.
Bacha bazi (man-boy sex) feminizes these boys in order to degrade them. By forcing them to perform in women's clothes and by raping them, this tradition not only seeks to humiliate these boys for the pleasure of wealthy men, but also to reinforce the idea that women are inferior and for a boy to have feminine affectations is degrading for him.
Muslim pedophile gangs prey on British Children
Pedophilia is socially acceptable in Islam because 'the perfect man' Mohammed was a pedophile. In addition, pedophile attacks on 'kuffar' (non-Muslim) children are seen as a legitimate form of jihad, inflicting humiliation and demoralisation on the children and their parents.
Mufa' Khathat - cleaning up the mess after thighing Ayesha
Mohammed married Ayesha when she was six but could not 'consummate' until she was nine. In the meantime he 'thighed' her then made her wash his semen off his clothes - a fact that is well documented in Islamic scriptures.
Inbreeding, Incest and Cousin Marriage in Islam
Young girls are sold as sex-slaves to older cousins and uncles to ensure that the bride purchse transaction money remains within the family.
Islamic Child Sexual Abuse: Muslim Pedophilia
Women are kept in purdah, and must be accompanied by a male relative whenever they leave the house. Wealthy older men acquire the youngest brides (often young cousins), with polygamy ensuring that young women are always in short supply for impoverished young men.
Islam is powered by Muslim sexual repression
Proponents of wars and terrorism in the name of Islam often exploited the frustration of sexually deprived young males and tantalised them with the prospect of captured women as ‘war booty’ if they succeeded. If they died, 72 lovely virgins in paradise as ‘houris’ would be provided to them which makes these boys ready to die for it, as suicide bombers.
95% of Pakistani Truckers have sex with Boys
Young boys are prostituted and abused in The Land of The Pure
Muslim sex criminals are above the law
Muslim pedophile gangs are immune from prosecution as police do not want to risk damaging 'community cohesion'.
Hypermasculine Muslims - Islam and hypermasculinity
Predatory and domineering, Islam is a brutal, hypermasculine, barbarian, tribal warrior cult that glories in murder, mutilation, rape, genocide, terrorism, destruction and anarchy. Women, girls and all the feminine aspects human nature are chattelised and subjugated. Weakness is despised and seen as ripe for predation. A woman or girl is to be owned, not treated as an equal. If she punctures the fragile inflated ego of her owner, then she must be killed to restore the man's 'honour' among his peers. Kuffar women and children are war booty.
Islam is bullying, swaggering, predatory, wife-beating thuggery, which is the destroyer of all that is beautiful, spiritual, gentle, innocent and vulnerable.
Vilest to the core !
Ha ha , what a long copy paste. Did you get the info from 'atlas shrug' or the 'EDL' webpage? Hmm , why are you still repeating Aishah(ra) marriage to Prophet Muhammad(saw) when such has been debunked and you made to appear silly? I thought we have already provided evidence of pederasty in the church? Sudah habis modal ka? Ha ha
I again reproduce your very own reference , that you appealed to , The Telegraph :
If you want an insight into how cowardly public debate in Britain has become, look no further than the controversy over the Rochdale Asian sex gang. The discussion about the despicable crimes committed by these eight Pakistanis and one Afghani has revealed extraordinary levels of relativism and self-censorship in modern Britain
One of the most striking things about the Rochdale debate is its competitive scaremongering. It's hard to know which side is worse: those who spread panic about the existence of sinister "networks" and "rings" of sex criminals and paedophiles across Britain, as if gangs like this exist everywhere, in every corner and community in the UK; or the coppers and commentators who stoke up fear about BNP thugs and ignorant white people who will apparently be provoked into violence if they so much as glimpse a headline containing the words "Asian sex gang"
the Deputy Children’s Commissioner Sue Berelowitz rather madly told the Today programme this morning, these networks exist “across every single ethnic and religious group, so there are victims and perpetrators across all ethnic and religious groups”. In short, “rings” of perverts are everywhere.
Your very own reference have refuted you. Lu tak malu ka tambi? Ha ha ....
The big question here , are you a right wing (translate 'racist') christian bigot? It very much appears so. Do you get very angry when you meet other races?
You still have not answered me per luk1:35 :
(1) Can you accept the fact that your God (holy spirit) raped a mortal (biblical Mary) resulting in the birth of your God (biblical Jesus) ? If you can , then your morality is questionable.
(2) Can you explain just how in the world does luk1:35 means invitro fertilization? Is your upstairs a bit wonkly due to the endless embarrassment heaped upon you?
Seems like the lecherous ustazy is getting more frustrated and judging from the disorientated and delusional post he produced......kakakaka.....Yes ! Right to the bull eyes !
80% of rapists who roam this planet share the same paganic faith as this lecherous ustazy.......that's the fact !
Now this advocator for rapist want to champion the cause of racist ???? Still remember the "slant eyed goon" he shouted ??? Not only once but many many time.....another typical example hypocrisy in Islam !
Interpretation of civilized people on RAPE; " Forceful Penetration of Vagina by Penis ". If there is no penetration of vagina by male's penis and even the woman becomes pregnant( for example in artificial insemination), this doesn't constitute RAPE !
Islam interpretation of RAPE; " Conceived by Holy Spirit", " Artificial Insemination", "In-Vitro Fertilization" = These all are equivalent to RAPE. However, "Forceful Penetration by muslims' penis into Kafir Women Vagina are not considered RAPE but Sexual Jihad"!
wkk5159 posted on 8-4-2013 08:23 PM
Seems like the lecherous ustazy is getting more frustrated and judging from the disorientated and delusional post he produced......kakakaka.....Yes ! Right to the bull eyes !
80% of rapists who roam this planet share the same paganic faith as this lecherous ustazy.......that's the fact !
Now this advocator for rapist want to champion the cause of racist ???? Still remember the "slant eyed goon" he shouted ??? Not only once but many many time.....another typical example hypocrisy in Islam !
Interpretation of civilized people on RAPE; " Forceful Penetration of Vagina by Penis ". If there is no penetration of vagina by male's penis and even the woman becomes pregnant( for example in artificial insemination), this doesn't constitute RAPE !
Islam interpretation of RAPE; " Conceived by Holy Spirit", " Artificial Insemination", "In-Vitro Fertilization" = These all are equivalent to RAPE. However, "Forceful Penetration by muslims' penis into Kafir Women Vagina are not considered RAPE but Sexual Jihad"!
Truly barbaric and vilest to the core.....
Ha ha , you are a typical racist christian bigot. All talk but no evidence. Hmm , reminds me of the person being interviewed in the video 'muslamic ray guns'. All I need to ask is for the evidence. So far yilek. Hmm , lets see the statistics of rape worldwide :
According to the UN data, the country with the highest rate of reported rapes is Botswana (92.9), while the country with the lowest rate is Egypt (0.1).
The above figure shows that christian countries are leaders in the crime of rape. Lagi sekali , muslim bagi fakta kapiak hanya auta. Ha ha
Ha ha , itsn't it true that you are now exposed a racist? Slowly and surely your character have come to the fore. Even your reference 'The Telegraph' has stated that your argument of 'sex gang' is nothing but a racist argument / diatribe. Too bad tambi , you are a right wing (or racist) christian bigot. How do you interact with the different races with you being a racist? Are you having plans to start a local Ku Klux Clan fellowship? You aiming to be the first local Grand Wizard?
Are you embarassed that you have been exposed being a racist? Hmm , I stated to the whites you are considered a slant eyed gook. Again I have caught you lying that I called you a slant eyed gook. In addition to being a racist , you are also a liar. These characteristics go hand in hand .... eh 'wkk5159'. Ha ha ....
Why are you trying to define rape? Like I stated before there many ways to describe rape. The polite languagae , the technical language and the crude language. luk1:35
The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.
The phrase of when a man 'come on a woman and his power overshadow her' in simple understanding means rape. Is there any other understanding of the said phrase? You admitted that the holy spirit has a penis as you die die claim that man is made in the image of God. Oh , to you luk1:35 mean invitro fertilization? Ha ha ... you must have been banging your head against the wall.
The questions you still need to answer :
(1) Can you accept the fact that your God (holy spirit) raped a mortal (biblical Mary) resulting in the birth of your God (biblical Jesus) ? If you can , then your morality is questionable.
(2) Can you explain just how in the world does luk1:35 means invitro fertilization? Is your upstairs a bit wonkly due to the endless embarrassment heaped upon you?
(3) How can a God (biblical Jesus) die? What resurrected the said dead God? 1tim6:15-16 states that God is immortal. Can you explain what is the definition of 'immortal'?
Oooo......the lecherous toothless doggy ustazy has to seek the help of a obscure source of map in defending the astronomical rape cases in muslim countries. Another classical joke from the fact defying muslims sam1528, "Country like Egypt has the lowest rate of rape".....
Let's us now look at the real facts. Lots of rape cases are unreported in muslim countries. Why ? Because Rape in Islam Required Four Witnesses ! "If she cannot produce four witnesses, her case turns into a chastity crime and is thus punished accordingly. ... To rape in islam doesn't exist." http://www.islam-watch.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=357:rape-in-islam-and-its-four-witnesses&catid=119:fakhour&Itemid=58. Interestingly, the author of this article is a former member of a Canadian university branch of the Muslim Student Association, a Muslim Brotherhood-affiliated organization !
Under Islamic law, rape can only be proven if the rapist confesses or if there are four male witnesses. Women who allege rape, without the benefit of the act having been witnessed by four men who subsequently develop a conscience, are actually confessing to having sex. If they or the accused happens to be married, then it is considered to be adultery.
Like a said before.....Really a shitty and devilish faith !
See Christian give true facts but muslims like sam1528 only futilely try to cover up their voluntarily exposed stinky and necrotic VD infected cocks.....
Again, i repeat the unanswerable facts by muslims;
Interpretation of civilized people on RAPE; " Forceful Penetration of Vagina by Penis ". If there is no penetration of vagina by male's penis and even the woman becomes pregnant( for example in artificial insemination), this doesn't constitute RAPE !
Islam interpretation of RAPE; " Conceived by Holy Spirit", " Artificial Insemination", "In-Vitro Fertilization" = These all are equivalent to RAPE. However, "Forceful Penetration by muslims' penis into Kafir Women Vagina are not considered RAPE but Sexual Jihad"!
Address the issue my lecherous ustazy, don't divert the attention by calling others racist......even this you don't have the damn right because you behave like a whore calling a virgin slut......
wkk5159 posted on 8-4-2013 11:52 PM
Oooo......the lecherous toothless doggy ustazy has to seek the help of a obscure source of map in defending the astronomical rape cases in muslim countries. Another classical joke from the fact defying muslims sam1528, "Country like Egypt has the lowest rate of rape".....
Let's us now look at the real facts. Lots of rape cases are unreported in muslim countries. Why ? Because Rape in Islam Required Four Witnesses ! "If she cannot produce four witnesses, her case turns into a chastity crime and is thus punished accordingly. ... To rape in islam doesn't exist." http://www.islam-watch.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=357:rape-in-islam-and-its-four-witnesses&catid=119:fakhour&Itemid=58. Interestingly, the author of this article is a former member of a Canadian university branch of the Muslim Student Association, a Muslim Brotherhood-affiliated organization !
Under Islamic law, rape can only be proven if the rapist confesses or if there are four male witnesses. Women who allege rape, without the benefit of the act having been witnessed by four men who subsequently develop a conscience, are actually confessing to having sex. If they or the accused happens to be married, then it is considered to be adultery.
Like a said before.....Really a shitty and devilish faith !
See Christian give true facts but muslims like sam1528 only futilely try to cover up their voluntarily exposed stinky and necrotic VD infected cocks.....
Again, i repeat the unanswerable facts by muslims;
Interpretation of civilized people on RAPE; " Forceful Penetration of Vagina by Penis ". If there is no penetration of vagina by male's penis and even the woman becomes pregnant( for example in artificial insemination), this doesn't constitute RAPE !
Islam interpretation of RAPE; " Conceived by Holy Spirit", " Artificial Insemination", "In-Vitro Fertilization" = These all are equivalent to RAPE. However, "Forceful Penetration by muslims' penis into Kafir Women Vagina are not considered RAPE but Sexual Jihad"!
Address the issue my lecherous ustazy, don't divert the attention by calling others racist......even this you don't have the damn right because you behave like a whore calling a virgin slut......
Ha ha , are you delusional? The statistics I provided is from the UN (United Nations). It is very obvious you deny any data that doesn't fit into your racist bigoted christian worldview. Are you now saying that the UN data that states Botswana (christian majority) has the highest rape crime rate against Egypt (muslim majority) , lowest crime rate , is bogus? If so , your evidence? Ha ha , farting thru your mouth again?
Ha ha , 4 witness for rape? Where did you learn such? Oh yeah , from Islamic watch , an article probably written by Rev Deacon Robert Spencer. This is what happen when you learn Islam from the Church of racist christian bigots. Quran24:4 (sahih international)
And those who accuse chaste women and then do not produce four witnesses - lash them with eighty lashes and do not accept from them testimony ever after. And those are the defiantly disobedient,
The verse means if a woman has been accused of adultery there needs to be 4 witnesses. In the case of rape , it is the man who is being accused of violating the woman. Ha ha , can you explain just how in the world that a verse that explains the procedure of 4 witnesses to be produced when a woman is being accused of adultery can be misconstrued by you to mean 4 witnesses for rape? In cases of rape , it is the man who is being accused. Any sober minded person knows the difference between a man and woman. Do you know the difference? Ha ha ...
However in the bible the punishment for rape is for the rapist to pay the violated woman 50 shekels and he then marry her , deut22:28-29
28. If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered,
29.he shall pay her father fifty shekels[c] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
Ha ha , what kind of lunatic God that allows the rapist to just pay 50 shekels and force the victim to marry the rapist? You are right ... the biblical God. This is a law in some christian majority countries :
In 12 Latin American countries, a rapist can be exonerated if he offers to marry the victim and she accepts. In one country, Costa Rica, he can be exonerated even if she refuses his offer. The family of the victim frequently pressures her to marry the rapist, which they believe restores the family's honour.
You must really love to live in such countries. Yeah lor , you are filled with the holy spirit. The mere mention of the word 'sex' or 'prostitute / whore' has aroused you. Ha ha ...
Now you need to answer me. Where do you get the notion that in Islam 4 witnesses are needed to prove rape? Is this what you mean by christian giving true facts? Ha ha ....
Ha ha , why are you arguing that rape means penetration of the penis into the virgina? Nobody is questioning such. Are you crazy? You are asking me to explain on things that I have no issues with? You are caught in your self enforced myopic view (to digress on the topic in order to run) of the technicality of the penis penetrating the virgina. However rape can also be described in a polite and crude manner. It is the language that describes it. I refer to luk1:35
The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.
The phrase of when a man 'come on a woman and his power overshadow her' in simple understanding means rape. Is there any other understanding of the said phrase? You admitted that the holy spirit has a penis as you die die claim that man is made in the image of God. Oh , to you luk1:35 mean invitro fertilization? Ha ha ... you must have been banging your head against the wall.
But you are a racist christian bigot. Refer to your previous posts. You keen on harping on a certain race. You brought up the argument of 'sex gangs' which your reference 'The Telegraph' confirms that only racists bring up such argument. Your appeal to 'Atlas Shrug' confirms the fact that you are a racist christian bigot. Are you vying to be the local Grand Wizard? Ha ha ... it is so easy to expose your racist sentiments.
The questions you still need to answer :
(1) Can you accept the fact that your God (holy spirit) raped a mortal (biblical Mary) resulting in the birth of your God (biblical Jesus) ? If you can , then your morality is questionable.
(2) Can you explain just how in the world does luk1:35 means invitro fertilization? Is your upstairs a bit wonkly due to the endless embarrassment heaped upon you?
(3) How can a God (biblical Jesus) die? What resurrected the said dead God? 1tim6:15-16 states that God is immortal. Can you explain what is the definition of 'immortal'?
(4) Where do you get the notion that in Islam 4 witnesses are needed to prove rape?
Racist Christians bigots like you (and truth.8) always refuse to answer questions with regards to their bible. I really don't know why. Are you ashamed with your bible? Ha ha
Kakaka......Any Christians still abide by the OT laws (punishment and death !) ???? Christians live by God's Grace !
Obviously that lewdy ustazy don't know his quran when he try futilely to defend Quran 24: 4 & 13, which madrasa this lewdy ustazy graduated from by the way ???......
Again, i repeat the unanswerable facts by muslims;
Interpretation of civilized people on RAPE; " Forceful Penetration of Vagina by Penis ". If there is no penetration of vagina by male's penis and even the woman becomes pregnant( for example in artificial insemination), this doesn't constitute RAPE !
Islam interpretation of RAPE; " Conceived by Holy Spirit", " Artificial Insemination", "In-Vitro Fertilization" = These all are equivalent to RAPE. However, "Forceful Penetration by muslims' penis into Kafir Women Vagina are not considered RAPE but Sexual Jihad"!
Address the issue my lecherous ustazy, don't divert the attention by calling others racist......even this you don't have the damn right because you behave like a whore calling a virgin slut......
Kakaka......Any Christians still abide by the OT laws (punishment and death !) ???? Christians live by God's Grace !
Obviously that lewdy ustazy don't know his quran when he try futilely to defend Quran 24: 4 & 13, which madrasa this lewdy ustazy graduated from by the way ???......
Again, i repeat the unanswerable facts by muslims;
Interpretation of civilized people on RAPE; " Forceful Penetration of Vagina by Penis ". If there is no penetration of vagina by male's penis and even the woman becomes pregnant( for example in artificial insemination), this doesn't constitute RAPE !
Islam interpretation of RAPE; " Conceived by Holy Spirit", " Artificial Insemination", "In-Vitro Fertilization" = These all are equivalent to RAPE. However, "Forceful Penetration by muslims' penis into Kafir Women Vagina are not considered RAPE but Sexual Jihad"!
Address the issue my lecherous ustazy, don't divert the attention by calling others racist......even this you don't have the damn right because you behave like a whore calling a virgin slut......
wkk5159 posted on 9-4-2013 10:51 AM
Kakaka......Any Christians still abide by the OT laws (punishment and death !) ???? Christians live by God's Grace !
Obviously that lewdy ustazy don't know his quran when he try futilely to defend Quran 24: 4 & 13, which madrasa this lewdy ustazy graduated from by the way ???......
Again, i repeat the unanswerable facts by muslims;
Interpretation of civilized people on RAPE; " Forceful Penetration of Vagina by Penis ". If there is no penetration of vagina by male's penis and even the woman becomes pregnant( for example in artificial insemination), this doesn't constitute RAPE !
Islam interpretation of RAPE; " Conceived by Holy Spirit", " Artificial Insemination", "In-Vitro Fertilization" = These all are equivalent to RAPE. However, "Forceful Penetration by muslims' penis into Kafir Women Vagina are not considered RAPE but Sexual Jihad"!
Address the issue my lecherous ustazy, don't divert the attention by calling others racist......even this you don't have the damn right because you behave like a whore calling a virgin slut......
Oh , you mean christians are not to abide by the OT? I thought biblical Jesus (your God) fullfilled the laws. This means that he perfected the law. Meaning it has to be obeyed not abrogated. 2tim3:16
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
That means the injunction of deut22:28-29 is enforceable. Ha ha , the biblical injunction is for the victim to force marry the rapist and her father gets 50 shekels. UNICEF confirmed that such is a practice (rape victim force marry the rapist) in 12 Latin American countries. Are these countries christian or muslim majority?
I reproduce the passage from the answering Islam page :
Narrated Wa'il ibn Hujr:
"When a woman went out in the time of the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) for prayer, a man attacked her and overpowered (raped) her. She shouted and he went off, and when a man came by, she said: That (man) did such and such to me. And when a company of the Emigrants came by, she said: That man did such and such to me. They went and seized the man whom they thought had had intercourse with her and brought him to her.
She said: Yes, this is he. Then they brought him to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him). When he (the Prophet) was about to pass sentence, the man who (actually) had assaulted her stood up and said: Apostle of Allah, I am the man who did it to her.
He (the Prophet) said to the woman: Go away, for Allah has forgiven you. And about the man who had intercourse with her, he said: Stone him to death.
He also said: He has repented to such an extent that if the people of Medina had repented similarly, it would have been accepted from them. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 38, Number 4366)"
The penalty on a convicted rapist in Islam is death. Whereas in Christianity , the rapist needs to pay 50 shekels and they get to marry the victim. Ha ha , this is twisted justice by the biblical God. So how? Answering Islam refer to exo22:17 as an escape clause. Ooi tambi , read it carefully. In Deut22:28-29 states of rape whereas exo22:17 states of adultery as the man 'sleeps' with the woman , not rape the woman. Ha ha , you racist christian bigots are willing to twist your own biblical verse for an escape clause. This is despicable.
Ha ha , why do you repeat your question despite my answer? Not satisfied with my answer? Your question :
Interpretation of civilized people on RAPE; " Forceful Penetration of Vagina by Penis ". If there is no penetration of vagina by male's penis and even the woman becomes pregnant( for example in artificial insemination), this doesn't constitute RAPE !
Islam interpretation of RAPE; " Conceived by Holy Spirit", " Artificial Insemination", "In-Vitro Fertilization" = These all are equivalent to RAPE.owever, "Forceful Penetration by muslims' penis into Kafir Women Vagina are not considered RAPE but Sexual Jihad"!
Nobody has any issue that rape is 'Forceful Penetration of Vagina by Penis'. What is your issue?
Where did you get the notion that in Islam rape =
" Conceived by Holy Spirit", " Artificial Insemination", "In-Vitro Fertilization" = These all are equivalent to RAPE.owever, "Forceful Penetration by muslims' penis into Kafir Women Vagina are not considered RAPE but Sexual Jihad"!
Your evidence?
Luk1:35
The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.
What does the phrase (describing the action) that when a man
'...come on a woman and his power overshadow her..'
Any simple understanding in english , the action means rape. That means your God , the holy spirit raped biblical Mary in luk1:35. What do you understand by the above mentioned phrase , the action of it?
(1) rape
(2) invitro fertilization
(3) Artificial Insemination
(4) sexual jihad
Come on , don't be shy. Provide reasons for your answer. Multiple chioce question.
Are you harbouring ambitions to be the first local Grand Wizard. You know the leader of the local racist christian bigots?
The questions you still need to answer :
(1) Can you accept the fact that your God (holy spirit) raped a mortal (biblical Mary) resulting in the birth of your God (biblical Jesus) ? If you can , then your morality is questionable.
(2) Can you explain just how in the world does luk1:35 means invitro fertilization? Is your upstairs a bit wonkly due to the endless embarrassment heaped upon you?
(3) How can a God (biblical Jesus) die? What resurrected the said dead God? 1tim6:15-16 states that God is immortal. Can you explain what is the definition of 'immortal'?
(4) Where do you get the notion that in Islam 4 witnesses are needed to prove rape?
(5) Where did you get the notion that in Islam rape =
" Conceived by Holy Spirit", " Artificial Insemination", "In-Vitro Fertilization" = These all are equivalent to RAPE.owever, "Forceful Penetration by muslims' penis into Kafir Women Vagina are not considered RAPE but Sexual Jihad"!
Your testicles have shrunk that you are just too scared to answer the questions? Why are you such a coward? Yeah , almost all racist christian bigots are cowards. Ha ha Last edited by sam1528 on 9-4-2013 12:13 PM
Folks, need something light before heading for your lunch ?
Here you are, another classical imbecilic joke by muslim.....muslim not other than sam1528; "The phrase of when a man 'come on a woman and his power overshadow her' in simple understanding means rape. Is there any other understanding of the said phrase?"........
Compare it to Legal Interpretation on RAPE; " Forceful Penetration of Vagina by Penis ". If there is no penetration of vagina by male's penis and even the woman becomes pregnant( for example in artificial insemination and embryo transfer), these doesn't constitute RAPE !.
Any wonder why muslims are the champion for everything retrograde in the world ???
Shhhh......you know what, beside all the perverted sex Muhammad promised his followers in Islamic paradise, sexually hungry muslims are not satisfy with sex with fellow human beings.....they want beasty action too....to be exact, bestial sex !
Let's examine the lewdy ustazy's definition of rape again; "when a man come on a woman and his power overshadow her' in simple understanding means rape."
So, in this case, if one substitute the "woman" with "Nanny".....this is what happens;
when a man 'come on a nanny(female goat) and his power overshadow her' in simple understanding means rape.
So, by sam1528 definition, anything he come on and overshadow is RAPE !
Even a female goat he also want to rape......Simply Bestial !
wkk5159 posted on 9-4-2013 12:16 PM
Folks, need something light before heading for your lunch ?
Here you are, another classical imbecilic joke by muslim.....muslim not other than sam1528; "The phrase of when a man 'come on a woman and his power overshadow her' in simple understanding means rape. Is there any other understanding of the said phrase?"........
Compare it to Legal Interpretation on RAPE; " Forceful Penetration of Vagina by Penis ". If there is no penetration of vagina by male's penis and even the woman becomes pregnant( for example in artificial insemination and embryo transfer), these doesn't constitute RAPE !.
Any wonder why muslims are the champion for everything retrograde in the world ???
Ha ha , why are you so scared to respond? I repeat , luk1:35
The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.
What does the phrase mean - '..when a man comes on a woman and his power overshadow her..'? Why are you so scared to comment? In simple englsh it is describing the action of the man raping the woman. In that case , luk1:35 means that your God , the holy spirit raped biblical Mary.
I repeat the question , the phrase - '..when a man comes on a woman and his power overshadow her..' means
(a) rape
(b) invitro fertilization
(c) Artificial Insemination
(d) sexual jihad
Provide reasons for your answer.
For the 5th time , I nor anyone else have any issue with the technical definition of rape - 'Forceful Penetration of Vagina by Penis'. Why are repeating things that I have no issues with? Sudah habis modal ka? Appears so .... ha ha
Are you now satisfied that the biblical injuunction is that the rapist just need to pay 50 shekels and marry his victim. His victim does not have a choice. This is lunacy.
You still need to answer my questions :
(1) Can you accept the fact that your God (holy spirit) raped a mortal (biblical Mary) resulting in the birth of your God (biblical Jesus) ? If you can , then your morality is questionable.
(2) Can you explain just how in the world does luk1:35 means invitro fertilization? Is your upstairs a bit wonkly due to the endless embarrassment heaped upon you?
(3) How can a God (biblical Jesus) die? What resurrected the said dead God? 1tim6:15-16 states that God is immortal. Can you explain what is the definition of 'immortal'?
(4) Where do you get the notion that in Islam 4 witnesses are needed to prove rape?
(5) Where did you get the notion that in Islam rape =
" Conceived by Holy Spirit", " Artificial Insemination", "In-Vitro Fertilization" = These all are equivalent to RAPE.owever, "Forceful Penetration by muslims' penis into Kafir Women Vagina are not considered RAPE but Sexual Jihad"!
Racist christian bigots like you are cowards. Lost your family jewels or what? You better find them so that you can summon enough scrotal gumption to conjure an answer. Ha ha ....
wkk5159 posted on 9-4-2013 12:30 PM
Shhhh......you know what, beside all the perverted sex Muhammad promised his followers in Islamic paaradise, sexually hungry muslims are not satisfy with sex with fellow human beings.....they want beasty action too....to be exact, bestial sex !
Let's examine the lewdy ustazy's definition of rape again; "when a man come on a woman and his power overshadow her' in simple understanding means rape."
So, in this case, if one substitute the "woman" with "Nanny".....this is what happens;
when a man 'come on a nanny(female goat) and his power overshadow her' in simple understanding means rape.
So, by sam1528 definition, anything he come on and overshadow is RAPE !
Even a female goat he also want to rape......Simply Bestial !
Poor nanny........
I repeat my stand. I have no issue with sex in paradise. What is the problem? Your bible has no issues promising christians 100x wives in paradise , mat19:29. What is your problem with sex in paradise? Unless your 'pencil does not have any lead'. Ha ha ...
Lets look into your comment as follows :
So, in this case, if one substitute the "woman" with "Nanny".....this is what happens;
when a man 'come on a nanny(female goat) and his power overshadow her' in simple understanding means rape.
So, by sam1528 definition, anything he come on and overshadow is RAPE !
Even a female goat he also want to rape......Simply Bestial !
Now you agree that the phrase - '..when a man comes on a woman and his power overshadow her..' means rape. TQ , therefore luk1:35
The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.
is a description of your God , the holy spirit raped biblical Mary. The same God , the holy spirit , which fills up the priests who committed pedophilia. Just look at yourself who is filled with the holy spirit , a mere mention of 'sex' or 'prostitute / whore' , you are aroused. Now its 'beastiality'. It never end ... yes?
You still need to answer my questions :
(1) Can you accept the fact that your God (holy spirit) raped a mortal (biblical Mary) resulting in the birth of your God (biblical Jesus) ? If you can , then your morality is questionable.
(2) Can you explain just how in the world does luk1:35 means invitro fertilization? Is your upstairs a bit wonkly due to the endless embarrassment heaped upon you?
(3) How can a God (biblical Jesus) die? What resurrected the said dead God? 1tim6:15-16 states that God is immortal. Can you explain what is the definition of 'immortal'?
(4) Where do you get the notion that in Islam 4 witnesses are needed to prove rape?
(5) Where did you get the notion that in Islam rape =
" Conceived by Holy Spirit", " Artificial Insemination", "In-Vitro Fertilization" = These all are equivalent to RAPE.owever, "Forceful Penetration by muslims' penis into Kafir Women Vagina are not considered RAPE but Sexual Jihad"!
Racist christian bigots like you are cowards. Lost your family jewels or what? You better find them so that you can summon enough scrotal gumption to conjure an answer. Ha ha ....
This is interesting....a coward and lewdy ustazy testicle will shrink whenever he is frightened. I think this sure is the direct effect of over indulgence in sex ala Islamic style in Islamic paradise. Poor nanny.......
Kakakaka.....the less than average IQ of that toothless doggy lewdy ustazy can't really understand the simple analogy i mentioned in my previous post. Can't blame him for being a muslim........
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Isaiah 7:14 (written: 712 BC (Before Christ)
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call His name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Matthew 1:23
Biblical Mary is clearly a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus as a result of conception by Holy Spirit as indicated in Isaiah 7:14 and Matthew 1:23.....even the Quran said Mary is virgin minus conception by Holy Spirit because that illiterate psedoprophet need to modify it to avoid the fact that Immanuel is "God with us" which ultimately identify him as false prophet.
So when this idiotic lewdy ustazy said that virgin Mary had been raped, he is insulting his own religion. Like i said before, an Australoid average IQ is like.....
Again, i repeat the unanswerable facts by sam1528;
Interpretation of civilized people/law on RAPE; " Forceful Penetration of Vagina by Penis ". If there is no penetration of vagina by male's penis and even the woman becomes pregnant( for example in artificial insemination), this doesn't constitute RAPE !
Islam interpretation of RAPE; " Conceived by Holy Spirit", " Artificial Insemination", "In-Vitro Fertilization" = These all are equivalent to RAPE. However, "Forceful Penetration by muslims' penis into Kafir Women Vagina are not considered RAPE but Sexual Jihad"!
Address the issue my lecherous ustazy, it appears to me that with the IQ and the pathetic faith that you have.....you can't ! Last edited by wkk5159 on 10-4-2013 12:54 AM
wkk5159 posted on 10-4-2013 12:51 AM
This is interesting....a coward and lewdy ustazy testicle will shrink whenever he is frightened. I think this sure is the direct effect of over indulgence in sex ala Islamic style in Islamic paradise. Poor nanny.......
Kakakaka.....the less than average IQ of that toothless doggy lewdy ustazy can't really understand the simple analogy i mentioned in my previous post. Can't blame him for being a muslim........
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Isaiah 7:14 (written: 712 BC (Before Christ)
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call His name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Matthew 1:23
Biblical Mary is clearly a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus as a result of conception by Holy Spirit as indicated in Isaiah 7:14 and Matthew 1:23.....even the Quran said Mary is virgin minus conception by Holy Spirit because that illiterate psedoprophet need to modify it to avoid the fact that Immanuel is "God with us" which ultimately identify him as false prophet.
So when this idiotic lewdy ustazy said that virgin Mary had been raped, he is insulting his own religion. Like i said before, an Australoid average IQ is like.....
Again, i repeat the unanswerable facts by sam1528;
Interpretation of civilized people/law on RAPE; " Forceful Penetration of Vagina by Penis ". If there is no penetration of vagina by male's penis and even the woman becomes pregnant( for example in artificial insemination), this doesn't constitute RAPE !
Islam interpretation of RAPE; " Conceived by Holy Spirit", " Artificial Insemination", "In-Vitro Fertilization" = These all are equivalent to RAPE. However, "Forceful Penetration by muslims' penis into Kafir Women Vagina are not considered RAPE but Sexual Jihad"!
Address the issue my lecherous ustazy, it appears to me that with the IQ and the pathetic faith that you have.....you can't !
Ha ha , you appeal to answering Islam site? This is about the worse site in the defense of Christianity and to attack Islam. My post #230 exposes the fact that the authors of answering Islam are willing to lie their way thru. They stated exo22:17 in defence of deut22:28-29 but former states that the man 'sleeps' with the woman (aka adultery) whereas the latter states of rape. Adultery and rape are 2 different issues. This expose the fact that racist christian bigots like you (and the answering Islam team) have no scruples in twisting your own bible to lie your way thru. This is a despicable. What's new anyway.
Now you appeal to isa7:14 , it being a so called prophecy of the virgin conception / birth? Ha ha , you are desperate. The hebrew word 'almah' means 'young maiden / woman' not virgin. This has been pointed out by Prof Geza Vermes of Oxford University
(Isaiah 7:14): Behold, a virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and his name shall be called Emmanuel, which means, God with us" (Matthew 1:22-23).
A virgin giving birth to a son who is God - is this not, QED, the demonstration of the Christian tradition? Not quite. It is true that the gospel of Matthew, written in Greek, and quoting the Greek translation of the Old Testament, speaks of a parthenos, a virgin in Greek, and understands the name Emmanuel as a specific doctrinal statement asserting that the child of the virgin is God.
However Jews, reading the original Hebrew of Isaiah, knew that the prophet spoke of something different. To designate the person who was to bear a son, he did not use the word betulah, a virgin in Hebrew, but almah, a young woman, a term with no supernatural implication. Jewish readers would also have known that the name Immanu El - literally "God is with us" - symbolised the promise of divine help to the Jewish people in the age of Isaiah, and not that the deity would take on a human form.
If you argue about names , can you explain just how Immanuel= Jesus Christ? Isa7:14 does not even states about virgin conception / birth. Ha ha
I thought we have gone thru the issue of Maryam(ra) conception in the Quran. Allah just wills it , it happen. This is a far better description as it reflects the majesy of Allah. Why are you repeating issues that have already been addressed? Run out of ideas already? Ha ha
You are again exposing your poor comprehension and your desperation to run from the argument. Luk1:35
The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.
I am describing the understanding of luk1:35 to mean rape as the phrase '..when a man comes on a woman and his power overshadow her..' in the simple english description , it is means rape.
However you are desperate besides having very poor comprehension and /or diverting the issue in trying to run. You now argue on the definition or the legal interpretation of rape - '..Forceful Penetration of Vagina by Penis..'. Why are you not addressing the issue but trying your darnest to run?
There is a subtle difference between description and definition (or legal interpretation) in this case. I thought you claim to be an intellect. An intellect would have been able to pick up the difference. Pity you are not able to do so.
Description - discourse intended to give a mental image of something experienced Definition - a statement expressing the essential nature of something
Ha ha , I am talking about the phrase in luk1:35 which gives the mental image of rape whereas you are trying to run from the issue arguing on what is the nature of rape. Why are you trying to run? Nobody is arguing on the definition or legal interpretation or the nature of rape. Can you address this issue or you are stonewalled already? Ha ha .... why so blur - blur one?
You still need to answer my questions :
(1) Can you accept the fact that your God (holy spirit) raped a mortal (biblical Mary) resulting in the birth of your God (biblical Jesus) ? If you can , then your morality is questionable.
(2) Can you explain just how in the world does luk1:35 means invitro fertilization? Is your upstairs a bit wonkly due to the endless embarrassment heaped upon you?
(3) How can a God (biblical Jesus) die? What resurrected the said dead God? 1tim6:15-16 states that God is immortal. Can you explain what is the definition of 'immortal'?
(4) Where do you get the notion that in Islam 4 witnesses are needed to prove rape?
(5) Where did you get the notion that in Islam rape =
" Conceived by Holy Spirit", " Artificial Insemination", "In-Vitro Fertilization" = These all are equivalent to RAPE.owever, "Forceful Penetration by muslims' penis into Kafir Women Vagina are not considered RAPE but Sexual Jihad"!
Pssst .... the argument of 'sexual Jihad' comes from the racist Pam Geller. This again expose the fact that you are aactually a racist christian bigot in your choice of reference material.
So, a simple reading of the article would tell anyone with basic reading skills that no “religious authority” had issued this fatwa, actual religious authorities condemned any such fatwa, there may not even have been a fatwa issued by anyone, there is no “Islamic ruling encouraging sexual jihad”.
Racist christian bigots like you are cowards. Lost your family jewels or what? You better find them so that you can summon enough scrotal gumption to conjure an answer. Ha ha ....
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