what did Pope say?

13Friday

in Islamic laws need 4 women witnesses.


How to get them and so most rape cases go unreported.


that is the "beauty and beast" of the religion,

13Friday

It emerged yesterday that Scotland Yard has launched an inquiry into complaints about offensive protests by Muslim extremists outside Westminster Cathedral on Sunday. A well-known extremist, who was accompanied by scores of demonstrators from a group called Muslims of the UK, was reported to have called for the Pope to be "executed".

13Friday

http://web.amnesty.org/library/index/engeur440132004

It was very difficult to expose rape amongst ordinary folk in that article for various reasons, and this is my assumption as so even worst to expose the cleric sex perverted cases.

MENJ

Or maybe none exist and this silly allusion is the product of your crazy, infantile mind.

- MENJ

Truth.8

Originally posted by MENJ at 20-9-2006 04:30 PM
Or maybe none exist and this silly allusion is the product of your crazy, infantile mind.

- MENJ

does pope say  something wrong when muslims guilty????


Unbelievers  
2:191, And slay them wherever ye catch them

2:193, And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression

2:216, Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you  

3:28, Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah  

4:48 ?llah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed.?

4:84, Then fight in Allah? cause - Thou art held responsible only for thyself - and rouse the believers. It may be that Allah will restrain the fury of the Unbelievers; for Allah is the strongest in might and in punishment.

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 20-9-2006 05:01 PM

does pope say  something wrong when muslims guilty????


Unbelievers  
2:191, And slay them wherever ye catch them

2:193, And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression ...

Islam (Holy Qur'an) doesn't teach Muslims to kill non-muslims.People like you quote verses from the Holy Quran not in its proper context - deliberately and you know very well that you are doing it deliberately.

I can do the same thing to any religion too, especially Christianity (but we're not as desperate as you because we securely know we are in the right).  All you have do is take verses out of context which you are doing to the Holy Quran. I challenge you to go and read those verses and check the chapter in whole and then judge it for yourself instead of believing those  who have no knowledge of Islam and have never read the Holy Qur'an. I also recommend non-Muslims  to visit http://askmuslims.com  and learn the basics and if you have question e-mail them..  

[ Last edited by  KENNKID at 20-9-2006 05:16 PM ]

Originally posted by MENJ at 20-9-2006 04:30 PM
Or maybe none exist and this silly allusion is the product of your crazy, infantile mind.

- MENJ

:setuju::setuju::setuju:

13Friday

http://www.coranix.com/beastycult.htm

In the UK, a mosque that was opened by the queen had an imam that dragged a girl in from the street and raped her in the mosque. In the multicultural paradise that is the UK, political correctness prevented much publicity about this and other rapacious crimes from muslims.
We have had maximum publicity given to pederasts uncovered in the Catholic church, yet these same media sweep reports of pederast imams under the carpet. Rapes by frenzied muslim youths are also downplayed. A documentary about 'grooming' young girls at the school gates was suppressed by channel 4.

People with experience in muslim lands will tell you that whilst homosexuality is banned by islam, pederasts are quite prevalent in Islamic countries where children are taught to worship and obey their mullahs.

Originally posted by 13Friday at 20-9-2006 06:43 PM
http://www.coranix.com/beastycult.htm

In the UK, a mosque that was opened by the queen had an imam that dragged a girl in from the street and raped her in the mosque. In the multicultural parad ...

heheh... your link is a website owned by a madman..

"There are no Buddhist suicide bombers.

There are no Christian suicide bombers.

There are no Jain suicide bombers.

There are only Islamic suicide bombers"

The Hard Truth About Suicide Bombers

Here history can help. Martyr missions made their official twentieth-century debut in the Second World War with the Kamikazes; they showed up again in the 1960s, when Viet Cong sympathizers exploded themselves amidst U.S. troops. Their debut in the Islamic world was not until the 1980s, during the Iran-Iraq war. Facing a far superior Iraqi military, Ayatollah Khomeini rounded up children by the tens of thousands and sent them in "human waves" to overrun the enemy. While Persians accrued losses in the war against Iraq, the role of the martyr in defensive jihad was exalted. As in U.S. wars, the dead became heroes.

The Iranian example had seismic effects. Lebanese groups appropriated the notion of a martyr's death almost immediately, employing human bombs against Israeli and international presences in Lebanon as early as 1981. Half of the human bombs in Lebanon were perpetrated by secular organizations. The Tamil Tigers of Sri Lanka perfected the tactic, becoming the most professional cadre in the world. Human bombs were also used by the Kurdish PKK against Turkey, the Sikhs in India, and the Palestinians against Israel, to name a few.

When we think of suicide bombers, we think of extremism. But the cases above locate the bomber as one popularly supported element in a coherent campaign of resistance against a perceived occupier, and such was true for 95 percent of the bombings prior to 2003. Note that allegiance to resistance appeared to trump allegiance to religion. And most important, for bombers and for the publics that exalted them, the notion of self-sacrifice would not have existed except for the context: a perceived necessity for group defense.


http://www.alternet.org/story/35815/


How Is Religion Used by Terrorists to Produce Suicide Bombers?


Most of Jessica Stern's book looks at Islamic extremist groups like al-Qaida and Hamas and what drives them - but she also includes chapters on American Christian cults and Jewish militants.

"To begin with, it is only Islamist terrorists today that are causing major threats to international security," she said. "But I wanted to include the other religious traditions, because at different points in history, every religion has produced significant armies of religious killers. There is nothing unique about Islam."

In her face-to-face interviews with Islamic, Jewish, and Christian radicals, Ms. Stern finds some common themes that transcend religious affiliations

Ms. Stern points to the spreading hostility toward the United States, especially in Muslim societies, and says reversing that message is also key to combating terrorism.

http://www.iwar.org.uk/news-archive/2003/10-30.htm

[ Last edited by  KENNKID at 20-9-2006 07:27 PM ]

yusmar

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 20-9-2006 05:01 PM



does pope say  something wrong when muslims guilty????


Unbelievers  
2:191, And slay them wherever ye catch them

2:193, And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression ...

Truth.8, I believe those verses have been discuss again and again and again. As how I see it.....if you don't like Islam....it's really up to you but what are you trying to prove by disparaging only Islam in most of your threads. It's not like we are asking you to convert nor are we asking you to believe Islam.

In every religion even christianity has it's own dirty laundry due to the people......not only Islam....so I don't see your point ? Muslims are guilty of what....of believing in Islam ? Believing in our beliefs ? What is so wrong with that. If you can believe in your beliefs....why can't Muslims ? come on la......the era of blaming is over....let's progress and look to the future....this is 2006 lah......:nerd:

13Friday

that is the root of much sleepless nights every where.

yusmar

Originally posted by 13Friday at 21-9-2006 06:57 AM
that is the root of much sleepless nights every where.

I don't think so......I have different races and religion leaving in one house and everybody sleeps peacefully :hmm:

13Friday

you call that moderate or true Islam?


Mahathir says no moderate in the context of true Islam.

yusmar

Originally posted by 13Friday at 21-9-2006 11:46 AM
you call that moderate or true Islam?


Mahathir says no moderate in the context of true Islam.

13Friday....what is your question ?

MENJ

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 20-9-2006 05:01 PM

does pope say  something wrong when muslims guilty????


Unbelievers  
2:191, And slay them wherever ye catch them

2:193, And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression ...

One can find so many violent verses in Deuteronomy and Joshua. No comments there, eh? Here is some enlightenment with regards to YOUR scripture:

Ye shall utterly destroy all the places, wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree: And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place.? [Deuteronomy 12:2-3]

"then ye shall drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their pictures, and destroy all their molten images, and quite pluck down all their high places: And ye shall dispossess the inhabitants of the land, and dwell therein: for I have given you the land to possess it. And ye shall divide the land by lot for an inheritance among your families: and to the more ye shall give the more inheritance, and to the fewer ye shall give the less inheritance: every man? inheritance shall be in the place where his lot falleth; according to the tribes of your fathers ye shall inherit. But if ye will not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you; then it shall come to pass, that those which ye let remain of them shall be pricks in your eyes, and thorns in your sides, and shall vex you in the land wherein ye dwell.? [Num. 33:52-55]

?he land, unto which ye go to possess it, is an unclean land with the filthiness of the people of the lands, with their abominations, which have filled it from one end to another with their uncleanness. Now therefore give not your daughters unto their sons, neither take their daughters unto your sons, nor seek their peace or their wealth for ever: that ye may be strong, and eat the good of the land, and leave it for an inheritance to your children for ever." [Ezra 9:11-12]

?hou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be a heap for ever; it shall not be built again.? [Deut. 13:15-16]

"f there arise among you a prophet, ? saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve themAnd that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death?o shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee?.? [Deuteronomy 13:1-5]

Pour out thy wrath upon the heathen that have not known thee, and upon the kingdoms that have not called upon thy name.? [Psalms 79:6]


- MENJ

DARSITA

I'm not listening to that old hoot. He is a miserable Pope. The only reason he was selected is because he isn't expected to live very long.