SPLIT: ur take on KOSONG/VACANT

seribulan

howabout...


KOSONG/VACANT...

True-X

KOSONG/VACANT

.. "nothing".. -wait for sumthing to fullfill

im nothing without u...

SleepyFish

vacant is a void or feeling of emptiness in the heart of the number one "disease" in the world of living which is loneliness.

dutchy

Originally posted by seribulan at 17-4-2007 09:45 PM
howabout...


KOSONG/VACANT...

feeling of lost....emptiness

ct_og

Kosong tiada pengertian apa-apa... segala-galanya tidak dapat dinyatakan apa yang terkandung di dalamnya.

ajinomotonosuga

Zero is impossibility. Sifar di cipta oleh manusia kerana ada TIME FACTOR. Zero is like money, a convenience. A medium. A stubborness is useful and also can use for destructive measure. In term of existence, zero is non existence. The situation is temporary, oscillating bw yes or no. After zero we have number 1. Numero UNO. The ONE and only. The beginning of all numbers till 9. So what is BEFORE 1? negative? zero? they are all speculations. if all numbers begin with 1, then 1 begins with what? zero, negatives? Impossible. The 1 must be the mother of all numbers. Above all, this 1 has no beginning, it existed even before time, space or any pre conceived idea. i couldnt contemplate any ATHEIST, they are illogical and purely stubborn lot, but i know there is no force in any belief, up to you and GOD's destiny.

Agul

My computer says,

101010101010101010

elctrical signal and absence of electrical signals.

wei_loon5063

minus time;
minus space

you get NOTHING...............

Pe4RL

Originally posted by seribulan at 17-4-2007 21:45
howabout...


KOSONG/VACANT...

God forbid, I'd ever feel this void in my heart...

ibnur

0 is a value.

ibnur

How much do I love her.....  zero.....

ct_og

Angka kosong dan sifar adalah sama namun pengertian kosong lebih luas ....

ajinomotonosuga

Originally posted by ct_og at 24-4-2007 11:03 AM
Kosong tiada pengertian apa-apa... segala-galanya tidak dapat dinyatakan apa yang terkandung di dalamnya.

'tiada pengertian' itu sudah satu penilaian dari awak mengenai kosong, so kosong itu telah di beri penilaian, di adakan oleh awak

ini tak sama maksud penafian kewujudan kosong kalo saya kata kosong itu non existent, kosong itu tak wujud langsung, mustahil boleh ada kosong  kerana kosong itu di beri penilaian oleh manusia or otak mereka.

di dalamnya? dalam kosong? mana kosong? takdak kosong..tak wujud pun, di nafikan keadaannya.

cuba fikir, boleh ka berlaku kekosongan dalam satu bulatan or circle of any system..dari sistem kecil macam zarah or atom molecule hingga sistem kosmos?

ianya cuma faktor MASA, lagging factor..sebelum satu keadaan lain mengisi or ada pengisian, but IN ITSELF kosong itu satu pekara paling penting sebelum muncul nya number 1. Ini cuma dalam KONTEKS CIPTAAN or sistem. beyond number 1 or keadaan 1 kita sebut kosong but this kosong is actually SLEEPING GENIUS..tok arab yang cipta angka SIFAR itu memang manusia genius tapi konteks sifar cuma dalam konteks ciptaan or relationship ciptaan or sistem. If u press ur mind harder u see kenapa dalam ucapan kalimah syahadat bermula TIADA...kita sebut nafi isbat or kalo bahasa lain kita sebut soal negating.

satu pun takdak..tiada..not even one but Allah swt. even word Tuhan pun tak patut ada..tiada, KOSONG segalanya kecuali Allah swt. Kalo ada Allah swt saja, macam mana boleh kosong?

pengertian kosong ialah negation, menidakkan segalanya , tapi ini mustahil rasional, even tak mungkin di terima akal waras, kalo kosong, segalanya tiada , macam mana kejadian even diri sendiri seme ni muncul and if human keeps persisting query akhirnya kita faham THE POWER OF ONE. Kosong dalam sistem cuma penilaian keadaan 'tiada' disebabkan unsur ruang masa, dimensi2 apa saja. In truth  kosong tidak wujud so it is mustahil (impossible)  tiada tuhan. Tak rasional. My view lah.

ajinomotonosuga

Originally posted by ibnur at 27-4-2007 02:43 PM
0 is a value.

zero ialah keadaan yang terlangsung disebabkan ada sistem dan relationship dalam sistem. Setiap ciptaan Tuhan ialah sistem so dia ada relationship dan dalam pusingan sistem ini boleh berlaku pelbagai keadaan. Sistem akan tersendiri kembali keadaan semulajadinya  , ianya bersifat automatik. Bila perut lapar kita sebut perut kosong, kita beri PENILAIAN pada keadaan perut tadak makanan, otot badan or nerves kita beri signal pada brain kendian brain kembali signalling malah siap bunyik2 so tuan badan sedar dia lapar dia carik makanan. Kita manusia tejemahkan keadaan ini dalam bentuk arithmetic or logarithm or matematik so tok arab genius soang cipta angka sifar. Bila keadaan tiada angkanya sifar, bila keadaan ada angkanya 1. Macam binary numbers for machine language to denote input current in or out.

selain dari tuhan maha esa to me is a sistem. mustahil tuhan itu sistem. sistem bergantungan part dalamanya (relationship) paling kurang at least 2 part. But Allah swt tiada sekutu bagiNYA. so this called TUHAN must not be sistem but this tuhan must the one create any sistem dia suka.  sistem perlu thinking and thinking is part of a system, tanda2 kelemahan ciptaan but tuhan is impossible dia berfikir..kalo tuhan mahu terus jadik tadak pikir2 or berwawasan or planning macam manusia or any other sistem. dari sistem molekul besor zarah tu sampai lah sistem universe kosmos seme tu..isu macam Black Hole di Mily way, anti matter energy..dan seme fizik semulajadi (sunatullah).

ajinomotonosuga

Originally posted by wei_loon5063 at 27-4-2007 03:31 AM
minus time;
minus space

you get NOTHING...............

what is in that nothing.. can u contemplate it?

dutchy

kosong / vacant

a voltex of numbness, where there is nothing.........just numbness.......

dutchy

Originally posted by ajinomotonosuga at 27-4-2007 08:03 PM



what is in that nothing.. can u contemplate it?

how do you contemplate NOTHING?

how to you envision NOTHING?

ibnur

Originally posted by dutchy at 27-4-2007 08:14 PM
kosong / vacant

a voltex of numbness, where there is nothing.........just numbness.......  

thgere is something there...  numbness....  

ct_og

Originally posted by ajinomotonosuga at 27-4-2007 07:43 PM


'tiada pengertian' itu sudah satu penilaian dari awak mengenai kosong, so kosong itu telah di beri penilaian, di adakan oleh awak

ini tak sama maksud penafian kewujudan kosong kalo saya k ...

Kerana itu saya katakan bahawa kosong itu pengertian dia lebih luas... kita boleh melihat dia dengan pelbagai sudut....

wei_loon5063

Body is nothing more than emptiness,
emptiness is nothing more than body.

The body is exactly empty,
and emptiness is exactly body.

The other four aspects of human existence --
feeling, thought, will, and consciousness --
are likewise nothing more than emptiness,
and emptiness nothing more than they.

All things are empty:
Nothing is born, nothing dies,
nothing is pure, nothing is stained,
nothing increases and nothing decreases.

So, in emptiness, there is no body,
no feeling, no thought,
no will, no consciousness.

There are no eyes, no ears,
no nose, no tongue,
no body, no mind.

There is no seeing, no hearing,
no smelling, no tasting,
no touching, no imagining.

There is nothing seen, nor heard,
nor smelled, nor tasted,
nor touched, nor imagined.

There is no ignorance,
and no end to ignorance.

There is no old age and death,
and no end to old age and death.

There is no suffering, no cause of suffering,
no end to suffering, no path to follow.

and so with no delusions,
they feel no fear,

there is nothing if nothing is desired...........